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[IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN Fast Track Process
Posted July 4th, 2009 by Mailing list user
Thanks, Vanda and other friends! I've posted my comments on the wiki.
I believe that a simple, clear and strong statement (in bulletin points)
would effectively get our message out. I don't believe the Board would have
the patience to read through the analysis.
Here are my personal comments:
a) Fast-track IDN ccTLDs must be implemented as planned, i.e. in Q4 of 2009
as the latest, to meet the "pressing need" of non-ASCII user community;
b) Any implementation plan must strictly observe the IDN Guidelines and IDN
tables reserved at the ICANN. Any ignorance on variant character set would
cause serious user confusion. The present draft policy on variants would
seriously pledge the non-ASCII users, particularly in Chinese, Japanese and
Korean community, by distorting their character usage. If the present policy
equals ASCII TLD variants in either capital letters or low-case letters,
non-ASCII users should have the equal right to use the variant scripts in
the relevant fast-track IDN ccTLDs.
c) The cost estimated for the processing of each new IDN ccTLD request is
prohibitively high. The financial barrier for IDN ccTLD managers especially
from developing countries would widen the digital divide and be against the
ICANN's social responsibility.
Hong
--
Hong Xue, Ph.D.
Professor of Law
Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law
Beijing Normal University
19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Vanda Scartezini wrote:
> Hi Hong
> I believe, besides your personal comment, would be good to add your ideas
> to this discussion Siva compiled to aggregate your ideas into our paper.
> kisses
>
> Vanda Scartezini
> POLO Consultores Associados
> & IT Trend
> Alameda Santos 1470 cjs 1407/8
> 01418-903 Sao Paulo,SP.
> Fone + 55 11 3266.6253
> Mob + 5511 8181.1464
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:50 AM
> To: Nick Ashton-Hart
> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Working List
> Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN
> Fast
> Track Process
>
> Hi, Nick, my last email was actually based on my reading of that draft on
> the wiki. Basically I feel it is difficult to understand it. But if it is
> the outcome of a long discussion within ALAC, I guess I'd better be quiet
> and send in my comment as an individual.
>
> Hong
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
> nick.ashton-hart@icann.org
> > wrote:
>
> > Dear Hong:
> >
> > FYI, as you will see on the At-Large Policy Advice Development calendar
> at
> > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/policycalendar, the draft statement
> composed
> > by Siva is now available for At-Large comment at
> >
>
> https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?comment_on_draft_implementation...
> n_for_idn_cctld_fast_track_process_revision_3
> .
> > This was announced last week in case anyone missed it.
> >
> > Comments on the draft will continue to be taken until 7th July. May I
> > encourage you to visit the above URL and leave any further comments as
> well
> > as the one below? I'm sure that your comments will be very valuable,
> > especially considering your long tenure as the previous IDN Liaison for
> > ALAC.
> >
> > Hong Xue wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Since the deadline has passed, I'm not making any new suggestion but do
> >> concern what has been deleted from the original DIP, such as contracts
> and
> >> financial contribution. I wonder whether these parts will be subject to
> >> separate documents or "gentleman's agreement".
> >>
> >> Also, I hope the whole discussions could be on the public list. It is
> >> difficult for the community to follow the sporadic announcements from
> time
> >> to time.
> >>
> >> Hong
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
> >> nick.ashton-hart@icann.org > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear All:
> >>
> >> To add to the schedule below one final point, a draft ALAC
> >> Statement on the v3 Fast Track proposal is due on the 26th
> >> (today), so that it can be posted for At-Large community comment.
> >>
> >> Separately, in addition to the PDF clean text which Siva has
> >> referenced, there is a redline text available at
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
> d-redline-29may09-en.pdf
> >> .
> >> This shows the differences between v2, which the ALAC commented
> >> on, and the present text; for those familiar with the previous
> >> version, looking at the redline text should make it much easier to
> >> decide what At-Large should say about v3, since only parts of the
> >> text have changed.
> >>
> >> There are versions in the six UN languages:
> >>
> >> Espanol:
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/es/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
> d-redline-29may09-es.pdf
> >> Francais:
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/fr/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
> d-redline-29may09-fr.pdf
> >>
> >> The others may all be found from
> >> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-31may09-en.htm
> >>
> >> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> The third revision of the Draft Implementation Plan is at page
> >>
> >>
>
> http://icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctl...
> ean-29may09-en.pdfwhich
> >> is also attached as a PDF here. As per schedule ICANN public
> >> consultation closes on 15th July. ALAC consultation on this
> >> topic would open
> >> on 30th June and closes on 7th July, based on which a final
> >> draft is to be
> >> preapred and posted for voting on 9th. Voting would close on
> >> 14th on the
> >> ALAC submission.
> >>
> >> Please go through the attached PDF with specific consideration
> >> to the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> 1. Page 25 - 29 Process Overview and the detailed flowcharts-
> >> are there any
> >> comments about the process as outlined?
> >>
> >> 2. 3.4 Technical String Criteria : Should Alac recommend
> >> relaxation on the
> >> number of characters required? Is this a technical issue or a
> >> socio-political issue? What would be alac's position on this?
> >>
> >> 3. 5.5 contentin issues
> >>
> >> 4. 5.6 Processing of a Fast Track issue
> >>
> >> 5. 6.3 US Government Authorization: is this within the purview
> >> of alac to
> >> comment in the context of IDNs.
> >>
> >> 6. Are there specific IDN points from the various constituency
> >> sessions of
> >> other constituencies that alac is in agreement with, that may
> >> be featured as
> >> points agreed, in the alac draft comment?
> >>
> >> I also wish to submit to alac and the IDN Working Group to
> >> consider the fact
> >> that the fast track process has taken a long time, during
> >> which there have
> >> been positive developmens on the technical and process
> >> readiness on the part
> >> of ICANN to implement IDN's, so is there a need to imply a
> delayed
> >> implementation of the gTLD process? Would alac like to
> >> consider being
> >> equally concerned about ccTLDs and gTLDs?
> >>
> >> And is there anything that requires caution on the path
> >> towards implentation
> >> of IDNs? There was some opinion that DNS stability takes
> >> precedence over the
> >> fast track process. Is there any such contrary opinion and are
> >> these
> >> opinions have any validity?
> >>
> >> To truly fast track the IDN process, I wish to propose to alac
> >> to propose to
> >> ICANN that an "IDN Day" be organized, either for one full day
> >> preceeding the
> >> ICANN meeting to bring together the constituencies concerned
> >> to focussed
> >> sessions on security, legal and commericial issues, all
> >> related to IDN's. If
> >> an additional day is not possible, a relatively light day such
> >> as a Thrusday
> >> could be dedicated for discussions on IDNs for ICANN to come
> >> to a conclusive
> >> position on IDNs and truly fast track the implementation process.
> >>
> >> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> >> Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh
> >> LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
> >> Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> ALAC-Internal mailing list
> >> ALAC-Internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists.
> icann.org
> >>
> >> ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
> >> At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> Nick Ashton-Hart
> >>
> >> Director for At-Large
> >>
> >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >>
> >> Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88
> >>
> >> USA DD: +1 (310) 301-8637
> >>
> >> Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44
> >>
> >> Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68
> >>
> >> email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org >
> >>
> >> Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com /
> >> AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com /
> >> Skype: nashtonhart
> >>
> >> Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> IDN-WG mailing list
> >> IDN-WG@atlarge-lists.icann.org IDN-WG@atlarge-lists.icann.org>
> >>
> >>
>
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg_atlarge-lists.ica...
> rg
> >>
> >> IDN WG Wiki:
> >> https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> > --
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Nick Ashton-Hart
> >
> > Director for At-Large
> >
> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >
> > Tel: +33 (450) 42 81 83
> >
> > USA Tel: +1 (310) 301-8637
> >
> > Fax: : +41 (22) 594-85-44
> >
> > Mobile: (Switzerland): +41 79 595 5468
> >
> >
> > email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org
> >
> > Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com /
> Skype:
> > nashtonhart
> >
> > Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
> >
>
>
>
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>
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>
>
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[IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN Fast
I consider that Hong thoughts are very clear, we could use the ideas to
improve Siva 's paper.
Vanda Scartezini
POLO Consultores Associados
& IT Trend
Alameda Santos 1470 cjs 1407/8
01418-903 Sao Paulo,SP.
Fone + 55 11 3266.6253
Mob + 5511 8181.1464
From: Hong Xue [mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:43 AM
To: Vanda Scartezini
Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide
Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN Fast
Track Process
Thanks, Vanda and other friends! I've posted my comments on the wiki.
I believe that a simple, clear and strong statement (in bulletin points)
would effectively get our message out. I don't believe the Board would have
the patience to read through the analysis.
Here are my personal comments:
a) Fast-track IDN ccTLDs must be implemented as planned, i.e. in Q4 of 2009
as the latest, to meet the "pressing need" of non-ASCII user community;
b) Any implementation plan must strictly observe the IDN Guidelines and IDN
tables reserved at the ICANN. Any ignorance on variant character set would
cause serious user confusion. The present draft policy on variants would
seriously pledge the non-ASCII users, particularly in Chinese, Japanese and
Korean community, by distorting their character usage. If the present policy
equals ASCII TLD variants in either capital letters or low-case letters,
non-ASCII users should have the equal right to use the variant scripts in
the relevant fast-track IDN ccTLDs.
c) The cost estimated for the processing of each new IDN ccTLD request is
prohibitively high. The financial barrier for IDN ccTLD managers especially
from developing countries would widen the digital divide and be against the
ICANN's social responsibility.
Hong
--
Hong Xue, Ph.D.
Professor of Law
Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law
Beijing Normal University
19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
Beijing 100875 China
On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Vanda Scartezini wrote:
Hi Hong
I believe, besides your personal comment, would be good to add your ideas
to this discussion Siva compiled to aggregate your ideas into our paper.
kisses
Vanda Scartezini
POLO Consultores Associados
& IT Trend
Alameda Santos 1470 cjs 1407/8
01418-903 Sao Paulo,SP.
Fone + 55 11 3266.6253
Mob + 5511 8181.1464
-----Original Message-----
From: idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
[mailto:idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:50 AM
To: Nick Ashton-Hart
Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Working List
Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN Fast
Track Process
Hi, Nick, my last email was actually based on my reading of that draft on
the wiki. Basically I feel it is difficult to understand it. But if it is
the outcome of a long discussion within ALAC, I guess I'd better be quiet
and send in my comment as an individual.
Hong
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart wrote:
> Dear Hong:
>
> FYI, as you will see on the At-Large Policy Advice Development calendar at
> http://www.atlarge.icann.org/policycalendar, the draft statement composed
> by Siva is now available for At-Large comment at
>
https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?comment_on_draft_implementation...
n_for_idn_cctld_fast_track_process_revision_3.
> This was announced last week in case anyone missed it.
>
> Comments on the draft will continue to be taken until 7th July. May I
> encourage you to visit the above URL and leave any further comments as
well
> as the one below? I'm sure that your comments will be very valuable,
> especially considering your long tenure as the previous IDN Liaison for
> ALAC.
>
> Hong Xue wrote:
>
>>
>> Since the deadline has passed, I'm not making any new suggestion but do
>> concern what has been deleted from the original DIP, such as contracts
and
>> financial contribution. I wonder whether these parts will be subject to
>> separate documents or "gentleman's agreement".
>>
>> Also, I hope the whole discussions could be on the public list. It is
>> difficult for the community to follow the sporadic announcements from
time
>> to time.
>>
>> Hong
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
>> nick.ashton-hart@icann.org > wrote:
>>
>> Dear All:
>>
>> To add to the schedule below one final point, a draft ALAC
>> Statement on the v3 Fast Track proposal is due on the 26th
>> (today), so that it can be posted for At-Large community comment.
>>
>> Separately, in addition to the PDF clean text which Siva has
>> referenced, there is a redline text available at
>>
>>
http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
d-redline-29may09-en.pdf
>> .
>> This shows the differences between v2, which the ALAC commented
>> on, and the present text; for those familiar with the previous
>> version, looking at the redline text should make it much easier to
>> decide what At-Large should say about v3, since only parts of the
>> text have changed.
>>
>> There are versions in the six UN languages:
>>
>> Espanol:
>>
>>
http://www.icann.org/es/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
d-redline-29may09-es.pdf
>> Francais:
>>
>>
http://www.icann.org/fr/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
d-redline-29may09-fr.pdf
>>
>> The others may all be found from
>> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-31may09-en.htm
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>>
>> The third revision of the Draft Implementation Plan is at page
>>
>>
http://icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctl...
ean-29may09-en.pdfwhich
>> is also attached as a PDF here. As per schedule ICANN public
>> consultation closes on 15th July. ALAC consultation on this
>> topic would open
>> on 30th June and closes on 7th July, based on which a final
>> draft is to be
>> preapred and posted for voting on 9th. Voting would close on
>> 14th on the
>> ALAC submission.
>>
>> Please go through the attached PDF with specific consideration
>> to the
>> following:
>>
>> 1. Page 25 - 29 Process Overview and the detailed flowcharts-
>> are there any
>> comments about the process as outlined?
>>
>> 2. 3.4 Technical String Criteria : Should Alac recommend
>> relaxation on the
>> number of characters required? Is this a technical issue or a
>> socio-political issue? What would be alac's position on this?
>>
>> 3. 5.5 contentin issues
>>
>> 4. 5.6 Processing of a Fast Track issue
>>
>> 5. 6.3 US Government Authorization: is this within the purview
>> of alac to
>> comment in the context of IDNs.
>>
>> 6. Are there specific IDN points from the various constituency
>> sessions of
>> other constituencies that alac is in agreement with, that may
>> be featured as
>> points agreed, in the alac draft comment?
>>
>> I also wish to submit to alac and the IDN Working Group to
>> consider the fact
>> that the fast track process has taken a long time, during
>> which there have
>> been positive developmens on the technical and process
>> readiness on the part
>> of ICANN to implement IDN's, so is there a need to imply a delayed
>> implementation of the gTLD process? Would alac like to
>> consider being
>> equally concerned about ccTLDs and gTLDs?
>>
>> And is there anything that requires caution on the path
>> towards implentation
>> of IDNs? There was some opinion that DNS stability takes
>> precedence over the
>> fast track process. Is there any such contrary opinion and are
>> these
>> opinions have any validity?
>>
>> To truly fast track the IDN process, I wish to propose to alac
>> to propose to
>> ICANN that an "IDN Day" be organized, either for one full day
>> preceeding the
>> ICANN meeting to bring together the constituencies concerned
>> to focussed
>> sessions on security, legal and commericial issues, all
>> related to IDN's. If
>> an additional day is not possible, a relatively light day such
>> as a Thrusday
>> could be dedicated for discussions on IDNs for ICANN to come
>> to a conclusive
>> position on IDNs and truly fast track the implementation process.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>> Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
>>
>> facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh
>> LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
>> Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
>> _______________________________________________
>> ALAC-Internal mailing list
>> ALAC-Internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>
>>
>>
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists.
icann.org
>>
>> ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
>> At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org
>>
>>
>> --
>> --
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Nick Ashton-Hart
>>
>> Director for At-Large
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
>> Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88
>>
>> USA DD: +1 (310) 301-8637
>>
>> Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44
>>
>> Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68
>>
>> email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org
>>
>> Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com /
>> AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com /
>> Skype: nashtonhart
>>
>> Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> IDN-WG mailing list
>> IDN-WG@atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>
>>
http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg_atlarge-lists.ica...
rg
>>
>> IDN WG Wiki:
>> https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy
>>
>>
>>
>>
> --
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Nick Ashton-Hart
>
> Director for At-Large
>
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>
> Tel: +33 (450) 42 81 83
>
> USA Tel: +1 (310) 301-8637
>
> Fax: : +41 (22) 594-85-44
>
> Mobile: (Switzerland): +41 79 595 5468
>
>
> email: nick.ashton-hart@icann.org
>
> Win IM: ashtonhart@hotmail.com / AIM/iSight: nashtonhart@mac.com / Skype:
> nashtonhart
>
> Online Bio: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashtonhart
>
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[ALAC] [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for ID
I consider that Hong thoughts are very clear, we could use the ideas to
improve Siva 's paper.
Vanda Scartezini
POLO Consultores Associados
& IT Trend
Alameda Santos 1470 cjs 1407/8
01418-903 Sao Paulo,SP.
Fone + 55 11 3266.6253
Mob + 5511 8181.1464
From: Hong Xue [mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:43 AM
To: Vanda Scartezini
Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large Worldwide
Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN Fast
Track Process
Thanks, Vanda and other friends! I've posted my comments on the wiki.
I believe that a simple, clear and strong statement (in bulletin points)
would effectively get our message out. I don't believe the Board would have
the patience to read through the analysis.
Here are my personal comments:
a) Fast-track IDN ccTLDs must be implemented as planned, i.e. in Q4 of 2009
as the latest, to meet the "pressing need" of non-ASCII user community;
b) Any implementation plan must strictly observe the IDN Guidelines and IDN
tables reserved at the ICANN. Any ignorance on variant character set would
cause serious user confusion. The present draft policy on variants would
seriously pledge the non-ASCII users, particularly in Chinese, Japanese and
Korean community, by distorting their character usage. If the present policy
equals ASCII TLD variants in either capital letters or low-case letters,
non-ASCII users should have the equal right to use the variant scripts in
the relevant fast-track IDN ccTLDs.
c) The cost estimated for the processing of each new IDN ccTLD request is
prohibitively high. The financial barrier for IDN ccTLD managers especially
from developing countries would widen the digital divide and be against the
ICANN's social responsibility.
Hong
[IDN-WG] [ALAC] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for ID
Agreed we need something simple pithy and concise building on all our
previous work/ statements... I endorse Hong's bullet point
proposal/approach...
CLO
2009/7/5 Vanda Scartezini
> I consider that Hong thoughts are very clear, we could use the ideas to
> improve Siva 's paper.
>
>
>
> Vanda Scartezini
>
> POLO Consultores Associados
>
> & IT Trend
>
> Alameda Santos 1470 cjs 1407/8
>
> 01418-903 Sao Paulo,SP.
>
> Fone + 55 11 3266.6253
>
> Mob + 5511 8181.1464
>
>
>
> From: Hong Xue [mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:43 AM
> To: Vanda Scartezini
> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large
> Worldwide
> Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN
> Fast
> Track Process
>
>
>
>
> Thanks, Vanda and other friends! I've posted my comments on the wiki.
>
> I believe that a simple, clear and strong statement (in bulletin points)
> would effectively get our message out. I don't believe the Board would have
> the patience to read through the analysis.
>
> Here are my personal comments:
>
> a) Fast-track IDN ccTLDs must be implemented as planned, i.e. in Q4 of 2009
> as the latest, to meet the "pressing need" of non-ASCII user community;
>
> b) Any implementation plan must strictly observe the IDN Guidelines and IDN
> tables reserved at the ICANN. Any ignorance on variant character set would
> cause serious user confusion. The present draft policy on variants would
> seriously pledge the non-ASCII users, particularly in Chinese, Japanese and
> Korean community, by distorting their character usage. If the present
> policy
> equals ASCII TLD variants in either capital letters or low-case letters,
> non-ASCII users should have the equal right to use the variant scripts in
> the relevant fast-track IDN ccTLDs.
>
> c) The cost estimated for the processing of each new IDN ccTLD request is
> prohibitively high. The financial barrier for IDN ccTLD managers especially
> from developing countries would widen the digital divide and be against the
> ICANN's social responsibility.
>
>
> Hong
>
>
> --
> Hong Xue, Ph.D.
> Professor of Law
> Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law
> Beijing Normal University
> 19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
> Beijing 100875 China
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jul 3, 2009 at 7:53 AM, Vanda Scartezini wrote:
>
> Hi Hong
> I believe, besides your personal comment, would be good to add your ideas
> to this discussion Siva compiled to aggregate your ideas into our paper.
> kisses
>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org
> [mailto:idn-wg-bounces@atlarge-lists.icann.org] On Behalf Of Hong Xue
> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 6:50 AM
> To: Nick Ashton-Hart
> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org; ALAC Working List
> Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN
> Fast
> Track Process
>
> Hi, Nick, my last email was actually based on my reading of that draft on
> the wiki. Basically I feel it is difficult to understand it. But if it is
> the outcome of a long discussion within ALAC, I guess I'd better be quiet
> and send in my comment as an individual.
>
> Hong
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 5:41 PM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
> nick.ashton-hart@icann.org
> > wrote:
>
> > Dear Hong:
> >
> > FYI, as you will see on the At-Large Policy Advice Development calendar
> at
> > http://www.atlarge.icann.org/policycalendar, the draft statement
> composed
> > by Siva is now available for At-Large comment at
> >
>
> https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?comment_on_draft_implementation...
> <
> https://st.icann.org/alac-docs/index.cgi?comment_on_draft_implementation_pl
> a%0An_for_idn_cctld_fast_track_process_revision_3>
> n_for_idn_cctld_fast_track_process_revision_3.
> > This was announced last week in case anyone missed it.
> >
> > Comments on the draft will continue to be taken until 7th July. May I
> > encourage you to visit the above URL and leave any further comments as
> well
> > as the one below? I'm sure that your comments will be very valuable,
> > especially considering your long tenure as the previous IDN Liaison for
> > ALAC.
> >
> > Hong Xue wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Since the deadline has passed, I'm not making any new suggestion but do
> >> concern what has been deleted from the original DIP, such as contracts
> and
> >> financial contribution. I wonder whether these parts will be subject to
> >> separate documents or "gentleman's agreement".
> >>
> >> Also, I hope the whole discussions could be on the public list. It is
> >> difficult for the community to follow the sporadic announcements from
> time
> >> to time.
> >>
> >> Hong
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
> >> nick.ashton-hart@icann.org > wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear All:
> >>
> >> To add to the schedule below one final point, a draft ALAC
> >> Statement on the v3 Fast Track proposal is due on the 26th
> >> (today), so that it can be posted for At-Large community comment.
> >>
> >> Separately, in addition to the PDF clean text which Siva has
> >> referenced, there is a redline text available at
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
> <
> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cct
> l%0Ad-redline-29may09-en.pdf>
> d-redline-29may09-en.pdf
> >> .
> >> This shows the differences between v2, which the ALAC commented
> >> on, and the present text; for those familiar with the previous
> >> version, looking at the redline text should make it much easier to
> >> decide what At-Large should say about v3, since only parts of the
> >> text have changed.
> >>
> >> There are versions in the six UN languages:
> >>
> >> Espanol:
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/es/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
> <
> http://www.icann.org/es/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cct
> l%0Ad-redline-29may09-es.pdf>
> d-redline-29may09-es.pdf
> >> Francais:
> >>
> >>
>
> http://www.icann.org/fr/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
> <
> http://www.icann.org/fr/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cct
> l%0Ad-redline-29may09-fr.pdf>
> d-redline-29may09-fr.pdf
> >>
> >> The others may all be found from
> >> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-31may09-en.htm
> >>
> >> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
> >>
> >> Hello
> >>
> >> The third revision of the Draft Implementation Plan is at page
> >>
> >>
>
> http://icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctl...
> <
> http://icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctld-c
> l%0Aean-29may09-en.pdfwhich>
> ean-29may09-en.pdfwhich
> >> is also attached as a PDF here. As per schedule ICANN public
> >> consultation closes on 15th July. ALAC consultation on this
> >> topic would open
> >> on 30th June and closes on 7th July, based on which a final
> >> draft is to be
> >> preapred and posted for voting on 9th. Voting would close on
> >> 14th on the
> >> ALAC submission.
> >>
> >> Please go through the attached PDF with specific consideration
> >> to the
> >> following:
> >>
> >> 1. Page 25 - 29 Process Overview and the detailed flowcharts-
> >> are there any
> >> comments about the process as outlined?
> >>
> >> 2. 3.4 Technical String Criteria : Should Alac recommend
> >> relaxation on the
> >> number of characters required? Is this a technical issue or a
> >> socio-political issue? What would be alac's position on this?
> >>
> >> 3. 5.5 contentin issues
> >>
> >> 4. 5.6 Processing of a Fast Track issue
> >>
> >> 5. 6.3 US Government Authorization: is this within the purview
> >> of alac to
> >> comment in the context of IDNs.
> >>
> >> 6. Are there specific IDN points from the various constituency
> >> sessions of
> >> other constituencies that alac is in agreement with, that may
> >> be featured as
> >> points agreed, in the alac draft comment?
> >>
> >> I also wish to submit to alac and the IDN Working Group to
> >> consider the fact
> >> that the fast track process has taken a long time, during
> >> which there have
> >> been positive developmens on the technical and process
> >> readiness on the part
> >> of ICANN to implement IDN's, so is there a need to imply a
> delayed
> >> implementation of the gTLD process? Would alac like to
> >> consider being
> >> equally concerned about ccTLDs and gTLDs?
> >>
> >> And is there anything that requires caution on the path
> >> towards implentation
> >> of IDNs? There was some opinion that DNS stability takes
> >> precedence over the
> >> fast track process. Is there any such contrary opinion and are
> >> these
> >> opinions have any validity?
> >>
> >> To truly fast track the IDN process, I wish to propose to alac
> >> to propose to
> >> ICANN that an "IDN Day" be organized, either for one full day
> >> preceeding the
> >> ICANN meeting to bring together the constituencies concerned
> >> to focussed
> >> sessions on security, legal and commericial issues, all
> >> related to IDN's. If
> >> an additional day is not possible, a relatively light day such
> >> as a Thrusday
> >> could be dedicated for discussions on IDNs for ICANN to come
> >> to a conclusive
> >> position on IDNs and truly fast track the implementation process.
> >>
> >> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
> >> Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
> >>
> >> facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh
> >> LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
> >> Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
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> >>
> >>
> >>
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> .
> <
> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-lists
> .%0Aicann.org>
> icann.org
> >>
> >> ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
> >> At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> --
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >>
> >> Nick Ashton-Hart
> >>
> >> Director for At-Large
> >>
> >> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >>
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> >>
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> >>
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> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/idn-wg_atlarge-lists.icann.
> o%0Arg>
> rg
> >>
> >> IDN WG Wiki:
> >> https://st.icann.org/idn-policy/index.cgi?at_large_idn_policy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
>
> > --
> >
> > --
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> >
> >
> > Nick Ashton-Hart
> >
> > Director for At-Large
> >
> > Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
> >
> > Tel: +33 (450) 42 81 83
> >
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> >
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[IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN Fast
I wonder what is the status quo of the Fast-track statement, though I saw a
3rd Revision on wiki. I'm puzzled why the most crucial issue, namely IDN
variants, is thrown down to the very end, which makes it look like a
redundancy. Everyone who has any knowledge on IDNs should know that the
current ignornace of variant characters would kill IDN implementation in
those most communities that need IDN most or cause fatal user confusion. If
ALAC does care about user interests, the variant part (that I drafted)
should be put on the very top of the statement to arouse the sufficient
atteniton of the Board.
Hong
On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> wrote:
> Dear All:
>
> To add to the schedule below one final point, a draft ALAC Statement on the
> v3 Fast Track proposal is due on the 26th (today), so that it can be posted
> for At-Large community comment.
>
> Separately, in addition to the PDF clean text which Siva has referenced,
> there is a redline text available at
> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-....
> This shows the differences between v2, which the ALAC commented on, and the
> present text; for those familiar with the previous version, looking at the
> redline text should make it much easier to decide what At-Large should say
> about v3, since only parts of the text have changed.
>
> There are versions in the six UN languages:
>
> Espanol:
> http://www.icann.org/es/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
> Francais:
> http://www.icann.org/fr/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
>
> The others may all be found from
> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-31may09-en.htm
>
> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>
>> Hello
>>
>> The third revision of the Draft Implementation Plan is at page
>>
>> http://icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctl...
>> is also attached as a PDF here. As per schedule ICANN public
>> consultation closes on 15th July. ALAC consultation on this topic would
>> open
>> on 30th June and closes on 7th July, based on which a final draft is to be
>> preapred and posted for voting on 9th. Voting would close on 14th on the
>> ALAC submission.
>>
>> Please go through the attached PDF with specific consideration to the
>> following:
>>
>> 1. Page 25 - 29 Process Overview and the detailed flowcharts- are there
>> any
>> comments about the process as outlined?
>>
>> 2. 3.4 Technical String Criteria : Should Alac recommend relaxation on
>> the
>> number of characters required? Is this a technical issue or a
>> socio-political issue? What would be alac's position on this?
>>
>> 3. 5.5 contentin issues
>>
>> 4. 5.6 Processing of a Fast Track issue
>>
>> 5. 6.3 US Government Authorization: is this within the purview of alac to
>> comment in the context of IDNs.
>>
>> 6. Are there specific IDN points from the various constituency sessions of
>> other constituencies that alac is in agreement with, that may be featured
>> as
>> points agreed, in the alac draft comment?
>>
>> I also wish to submit to alac and the IDN Working Group to consider the
>> fact
>> that the fast track process has taken a long time, during which there have
>> been positive developmens on the technical and process readiness on the
>> part
>> of ICANN to implement IDN's, so is there a need to imply a delayed
>> implementation of the gTLD process? Would alac like to consider being
>> equally concerned about ccTLDs and gTLDs?
>>
>> And is there anything that requires caution on the path towards
>> implentation
>> of IDNs? There was some opinion that DNS stability takes precedence over
>> the
>> fast track process. Is there any such contrary opinion and are these
>> opinions have any validity?
>>
>> To truly fast track the IDN process, I wish to propose to alac to propose
>> to
>> ICANN that an "IDN Day" be organized, either for one full day preceeding
>> the
>> ICANN meeting to bring together the constituencies concerned to focussed
>> sessions on security, legal and commericial issues, all related to IDN's.
>> If
>> an additional day is not possible, a relatively light day such as a
>> Thrusday
>> could be dedicated for discussions on IDNs for ICANN to come to a
>> conclusive
>> position on IDNs and truly fast track the implementation process.
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>> Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
>>
>> facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh
>> LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
>> Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
>> _______________________________________________
>> ALAC-Internal mailing list
>> ALAC-Internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>
>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-li...
>>
>> ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
>> At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org
>>
>>
>
> --
>
> --
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Nick Ashton-Hart
>
> Director for At-Large
>
> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>
> Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88
>
> USA DD: +1 (310) 301-8637
>
> Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44
>
> Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68
>
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>
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> nashtonhart
>
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[IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN Fast
I wonder what is the status of the ALAC Statement on 3rd Version of Draft
Implementation Plan for IDN Fast Track Process. The deadline of
consultation, July 15, has passed, and ALAC statement is not on ICANN site
obviously http://forum.icann.org/lists/ft-implementation/. Could anyone
enlighten me on this?
Hong
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Director of Institute for the Internet Policy & Law
Beijing Normal University
19 Xin Jie Kou Wai Street
Beijing 100875 China
On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 11:31 AM, Hong Xue wrote:
>
> I wonder what is the status quo of the Fast-track statement, though I saw a
> 3rd Revision on wiki. I'm puzzled why the most crucial issue, namely IDN
> variants, is thrown down to the very end, which makes it look like a
> redundancy. Everyone who has any knowledge on IDNs should know that the
> current ignornace of variant characters would kill IDN implementation in
> those most communities that need IDN most or cause fatal user confusion. If
> ALAC does care about user interests, the variant part (that I drafted)
> should be put on the very top of the statement to arouse the sufficient
> atteniton of the Board.
>
> Hong
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 5:53 AM, Nick Ashton-Hart <
> nick.ashton-hart@icann.org> wrote:
>
>> Dear All:
>>
>> To add to the schedule below one final point, a draft ALAC Statement on
>> the v3 Fast Track proposal is due on the 26th (today), so that it can be
>> posted for At-Large community comment.
>>
>> Separately, in addition to the PDF clean text which Siva has referenced,
>> there is a redline text available at
>> http://www.icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-....
>> This shows the differences between v2, which the ALAC commented on, and the
>> present text; for those familiar with the previous version, looking at the
>> redline text should make it much easier to decide what At-Large should say
>> about v3, since only parts of the text have changed.
>>
>> There are versions in the six UN languages:
>>
>> Espanol:
>> http://www.icann.org/es/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
>> Francais:
>> http://www.icann.org/fr/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-...
>>
>> The others may all be found from
>> http://www.icann.org/en/announcements/announcement-31may09-en.htm
>>
>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy wrote:
>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> The third revision of the Draft Implementation Plan is at page
>>>
>>> http://icann.org/en/topics/idn/fast-track/draft-implementation-plan-cctl...
>>> is also attached as a PDF here. As per schedule ICANN public
>>> consultation closes on 15th July. ALAC consultation on this topic would
>>> open
>>> on 30th June and closes on 7th July, based on which a final draft is to
>>> be
>>> preapred and posted for voting on 9th. Voting would close on 14th on the
>>> ALAC submission.
>>>
>>> Please go through the attached PDF with specific consideration to the
>>> following:
>>>
>>> 1. Page 25 - 29 Process Overview and the detailed flowcharts- are there
>>> any
>>> comments about the process as outlined?
>>>
>>> 2. 3.4 Technical String Criteria : Should Alac recommend relaxation on
>>> the
>>> number of characters required? Is this a technical issue or a
>>> socio-political issue? What would be alac's position on this?
>>>
>>> 3. 5.5 contentin issues
>>>
>>> 4. 5.6 Processing of a Fast Track issue
>>>
>>> 5. 6.3 US Government Authorization: is this within the purview of alac to
>>> comment in the context of IDNs.
>>>
>>> 6. Are there specific IDN points from the various constituency sessions
>>> of
>>> other constituencies that alac is in agreement with, that may be featured
>>> as
>>> points agreed, in the alac draft comment?
>>>
>>> I also wish to submit to alac and the IDN Working Group to consider the
>>> fact
>>> that the fast track process has taken a long time, during which there
>>> have
>>> been positive developmens on the technical and process readiness on the
>>> part
>>> of ICANN to implement IDN's, so is there a need to imply a delayed
>>> implementation of the gTLD process? Would alac like to consider being
>>> equally concerned about ccTLDs and gTLDs?
>>>
>>> And is there anything that requires caution on the path towards
>>> implentation
>>> of IDNs? There was some opinion that DNS stability takes precedence over
>>> the
>>> fast track process. Is there any such contrary opinion and are these
>>> opinions have any validity?
>>>
>>> To truly fast track the IDN process, I wish to propose to alac to propose
>>> to
>>> ICANN that an "IDN Day" be organized, either for one full day preceeding
>>> the
>>> ICANN meeting to bring together the constituencies concerned to focussed
>>> sessions on security, legal and commericial issues, all related to IDN's.
>>> If
>>> an additional day is not possible, a relatively light day such as a
>>> Thrusday
>>> could be dedicated for discussions on IDNs for ICANN to come to a
>>> conclusive
>>> position on IDNs and truly fast track the implementation process.
>>>
>>> Sivasubramanian Muthusamy
>>> Blog: http://isocmadras.blogspot.com
>>>
>>> facebook: http://is.gd/x8Sh
>>> LinkedIn: http://is.gd/x8U6
>>> Twitter: http://is.gd/x8Vz
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> ALAC-Internal mailing list
>>> ALAC-Internal@atlarge-lists.icann.org
>>>
>>> http://atlarge-lists.icann.org/mailman/listinfo/alac-internal_atlarge-li...
>>>
>>> ALAC Wiki: http://st.icann.org/alac
>>> At-Large Website: http://atlarge.icann.org
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> --
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Nick Ashton-Hart
>>
>> Director for At-Large
>>
>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN)
>>
>> Main Tel: +33 (450) 40 46 88
>>
>> USA DD: +1 (310) 301-8637
>>
>> Fax: +41 (22) 594-85-44
>>
>> Mobile: +41 (79) 595 54-68
>>
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[ALAC] [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for ID
Agreed we need something simple pithy and concise building on all our
previous work/ statements... I endorse Hong's bullet point
proposal/approach...
CLO
2009/7/5 Vanda Scartezini
> I consider that Hong thoughts are very clear, we could use the ideas to
> improve Siva 's paper.
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> From: Hong Xue [mailto:hongxueipr@gmail.com]
> Sent: Saturday, July 04, 2009 12:43 AM
> To: Vanda Scartezini
> Cc: ICANN AtLarge Staff; idn-wg@atlarge-lists.icann.org; At-Large
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> Subject: Re: [IDN-WG] [ALAC-Internal] Draft Implementation Plan for IDN
> Fast
> Track Process
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> Thanks, Vanda and other friends! I've posted my comments on the wiki.
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> I believe that a simple, clear and strong statement (in bulletin points)
> would effectively get our message out. I don't believe the Board would have
> the patience to read through the analysis.
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> Here are my personal comments:
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> a) Fast-track IDN ccTLDs must be implemented as planned, i.e. in Q4 of 2009
> as the latest, to meet the "pressing need" of non-ASCII user community;
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> b) Any implementation plan must strictly observe the IDN Guidelines and IDN
> tables reserved at the ICANN. Any ignorance on variant character set would
> cause serious user confusion. The present draft policy on variants would
> seriously pledge the non-ASCII users, particularly in Chinese, Japanese and
> Korean community, by distorting their character usage. If the present
> policy
> equals ASCII TLD variants in either capital letters or low-case letters,
> non-ASCII users should have the equal right to use the variant scripts in
> the relevant fast-track IDN ccTLDs.
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> c) The cost estimated for the processing of each new IDN ccTLD request is
> prohibitively high. The financial barrier for IDN ccTLD managers especially
> from developing countries would widen the digital divide and be against the
> ICANN's social responsibility.
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> Hong
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